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蜜蜂联盟使用Affordable Care App进行补损

联盟补损规则不定期更新,请以联盟论坛原帖为准。

蜜蜂论坛原文链接:https://goonfleet.com/index.php/topic/287417-affordable-care-app-goonswarm-federation-reimbursement-and-you/

How to file for Reimbursement 如何申请补损:

  • Go to  https://affordablecare.goonfleet.com/  打开这个网站并登录
  • Submit a request by selecting "Submit Loss"    点击Submit Loss提交补损申请
  • Track your requests by selecting "My Losses"  点击My Losses查看你提交的补损申请

如果你不知道怎么登录这个补损系统,请看账号及说明:https://forum.pla-eve.com/topic/35-gsf-account

Reimbursement Rules:

  • Submission into the reimbursement app is the only authorized source of alliance reimbursement.
  • 这个补损APP入口是联盟补损唯一授权的地方。
  • For strategic reimbursement, a jabber broadcast of the fleet is required. Not the fleet MOTD. Not an aD link. Not some essay you type to me. You can add additional clarifying information, but a jabber broadcast is the minimum.
  • 对于战略OP补损,补损申请必须包括舰队JABBER广播(ping)的。不是舰队的MOTD,不是adashboard的LINK。不是一些随便敲打出来的小作文。你可以写一些自己的描述,但是JABBER的广播(ping)必须带着。
  • Goonswarm Federation losses are the only authorized losses. If the ship is not in Goonswarm Federation, you will not be reimbursed through this app.
  • 只会对goons的号的损失进行补损,不在goons的号不予补损。
  • Lossmails over 30 days old will be denied.
  • 超过30天的补损申请将被拒绝。
  • Please wait at least 7 days before contacting a member of the reimbursement team about your claim.
  • 请至少等待7天,然后再与补损团队的成员联系以索取您的补损。
  • if you have an issue with how your claim was handled, talk to the person who handled your claim first. Posting in this thread about it or jumping the chain directly to me without discussing it with the person who handled your claim will not generally be decided in your favor.
  • 如果你对得到的补损有任何的疑问,请首先与给你管理的补损官进行联系。
  • Excess abuse, gross incompetence, or other fuckery can result in you being placed under a reimbursement ban. This includes, but is not limited to, submitting items that are not reimbursable like empty capsules, pve losses, enemy ships, non-GSF ships. If you don’t care enough to pay attention, I don’t care enough to SRP you.
  • 过度的滥用,严重的无能或其他疯狂行为可能会导致您被禁止补损。包括但不限于提交不在补损范围内的空蛋,怪损,非蜜蜂船只。
  • If the alliance provides you a ship for free, do not submit it for reimbursement (the alliance doesn't pay for ships twice).
  • 如果联盟免费为您提供船只,请不要将其提交报销(联盟不会为船只支付两次费用)。
  • There are not currently any module bonuses active. All faction modules costs are baked into reimbursement payout and should be considered required where listed on the doctrine page.
  • 联盟现在暂不对升级装备进行补损。制式船只所用的势力装备已包括在补损价格内了。
  • If you have not been on mumble and jabber within 5 days of the date on the lossmail, your claim will be denied.This applies to all reimbursement. This should have minimal impact on Strategic fleets, as you were on jabber to get the ping and on mumble during the fleet. This should mainly impact the anti-social too cool for school shitheels that just mooch off reimbursement without contributing to the community. Fuck those guys. One question that came up - what if you are deaf? The state of being deaf does not prohibit one from logging into mumble, whether or not you can hear anything.  This is enforced intermittently depending on if Manager is shitting itself or not (Thanks Bittey).
  • 如果你在损失发生时的5天内,没有登录mumble和jabber的记录,你的补损申请将被拒绝。此项规定根据联盟服务器情况,不定期执行。

备注:蜜蜂联盟给每个成员提供每个月10亿上限的单浪吃屎损,这个损失必须是PVP装配,不能在高安损失,均可以申请。

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Goonswarm Federation Reimbursement Program

蜜蜂联盟补损计划

Goonswarm Federation has a two-tier reimbursement program with the following names and approximate funding levels:

蜜蜂联盟现有两级补损计划,名称及补损额度如下:

  • Doctrinal Strategic/Peacetime/Sig-Squad reimbursement: 80-100% of Jita sell (after insurance)
  • Strategic/Peacetime/Sig-Squad 制式舰队船型补损:80-100% 吉他卖价(扣除保险)
  • Shit Stack: 50-75% of Jita sell (after insurance)
  • Shit Stack 吃屎损:50-75% 吉他卖价(扣除保险)

The first rule of the Goonswarm Federation Reimbursement Program: 

蜜蜂联盟补损计划第一规则:

BE IN GOONSWARM FEDERATION.  This program is not open to Imperium members. It's not open to your neutral alts. It's not open to alts in other blue alliances.  If you lose a ship, that pilot better be in this alliance.  If you shit up my app with your bullshit while not in GSF, I will ban you from the app. Typically for 10 years. It's going to be really fucking awkward if you later find yourself in Goonswarm Federation and are unable to request SRP because you went on a shitposting spree while in LAWN.

是蜜蜂联盟成员。本补损计划不适用于帝国成员。本计划不适用于白名小号。本计划不适用于在其他蓝加友军联盟的小号。如果你损了船,驾驶员最好是在蜜蜂联盟。如果你不是蜜蜂成员并滥用联盟补损APP,你将被禁止使用补损APP。禁止时长通常为10年。你将会很尴尬的发现,当你从友军联盟跳槽到蜜蜂联盟后,却无法使用蜜蜂联盟补损。

Doctrinal Strategic Reimbursement

制式战略补损
This payout tier is reserved for active Alliance doctrines posted. You can see a current list of them in this subforum. Compensation levels aim to be 80-100% of the after-insurance Jita sell price. As always, the affordable care app pricing can be determined via View Payouts under the "Strategic" payout type. If you still have questions, you should read individual doctrine threads for specific details about their reimbursement.

此项支付等级适用于联盟现行战略制式队伍。具体配置以联盟论坛帖子为准:

https://goonfleet.com/index.php/forum/266-fleet-doctrines-and-reimbursement/

补损目标额度为80-100%的保险后吉他卖价。你可以在补损APP中通过 “View Payouts”查看具体价格。如果有更多疑问,请查看具体制式队伍配置的帖子。

Goals of Doctrinal Strategic Reimbursement

制式战略补损的目标

  • Enable you to know what is expected.
  • 让你可以有一个预期
  • Enable FCs to know what their fleet can do.
  • 让舰队指挥官知道他们的舰队可以做什么
  • Enable our industrial members to know what to stock.
  • 让工业成员知道备什么货
  • Provide you with clear training goals.
  • 给你一个明确的技能训练目标
  • Get you back in the fight with a minimum of rat murdering.
  • 使你尽快返回战场且不需要大量刷怪补损

Strategic Reimbursement Rules

战略补损规则

  • When you submit your loss, be sure to provide a link to your loss using your ESI External Kill Link. Include the jabber broadcast for the fleet. Failure to include a jabber broadcast or link to AAR forum post can result in your request being denied. These are not optional so don't make a request before you have these items.
  • 提交补损申请时,确保你提供了击杀报告的 ESI External Kill Link ESI外部链接。包括所属舰队的jabber ping。否则你的补损申请将被拒绝。不要在你取得上述信息前提交补损申请。
  • This post is the FINAL word on what is and isn't reimbursable. If you have any questions, send them to Atrum Veneficus (Reimbursement Director).
  • 此帖子是可补损范围的最终解释。如果你有任何问题,请联系联盟补损总监:Atrum Veneficus
  • The ship must have been lost during a fleet fight or during a convoy to the fight. Losses while you were traveling solo to or from a fight are not covered. If you make an honest attempt to group up with some other friendlies, that's good enough for us. This rule is to prevent a small gate camp from killing dozens of ships before, during, and after a fleet fight.
  • 船只损失必须是发生在舰队战斗或舰队移动过程中。自行跑路前往或离开战场的损失是不予补损的。如果你真诚的试图与舰队成员或其他友军回合,对我们来说就足够了。此规则的目的是防止堵门小队击杀大量自行移动的船只。
  • The ship must have been using one of the approved setups in the appropriate doctrine thread. Rigs, low and medium slots should never be empty unless explicitly allowed in the doctrine thread. If your fit doesn't look like the doctrine thread and an FC didn't tell you to do it, it will be denied or downgraded.
  • 损失的船只必须为经过批准的制式配置。船插,低槽,中槽不可以有空槽位,除非制式配置帖子明确标明。如果你的船只配置和制式帖子不同,且舰队指挥官没叫你改配置,那么你的补损将会被拒绝或降级。
  • You may make "improvements" to the existing fits if your skills are better than the minimum standard required. At the very least your "upgrade" must have at least as much range, dps, cap, and ehp as what we require. If you want to be safe, just use the same type of module and upgrade that up to faction > deadspace > etc.
  • 你可以“改进/升级”你的船只配置,如果你的技能等级高于最低要求。你的“改进/升级”必须至少能达到和制式配置相同的射程,伤害,电容和血量。最安全的方式是使用同型号装备,升级顺序为势力->死亡->其他。
  • Huginn and the Lachesis list T2 weapon systems but named are allowed. These ships are for webbing and pointing things. The weapons are not a big deal.
  • 修津和拉克的制式配置使用了T2武器,但是衍生型号是被允许的。这些船型的目的是网子和反跳。武器不是很重要。
  • Drones. I don't care about drones. Stop asking me about your goddamn drones.
  • 无人机。我不在乎你用了什么无人机。别再问我关于你的无人机的问题了。
  • If an FC calls for you to refit your ship in a manner that is not found in its doctrine thread, tell us this when you submit the claim. We probably didn't go on that fleet, so unless you tell us the FC told you to do it, we're going to assume you are stupid.
  • 如果舰队指挥官要求你以未在制式帖子中列出的方式改装你的船配置,请在提交补损申请时告知我们我们很可能没去那个舰队,所以除非你告诉我们是舰队指挥官让你那么做的,我们会默认是你自己犯傻了。
  • Deaths to NPCs (Drifters, Triglavians, Gate Guns) will be covered on strategic operations
  • 在战略队伍中,NPC导致的怪损是有补损的。
  • Deaths in wormholes, as long as it is part of a strategic operation, will be covered.
  • 在战略队伍中,死在虫洞中是有补损的。
  • When in doubt, fit the ship exactly as the pretty picture in the doctrine thread says.
  • 如果你不确定,那就把你的船配成和制式帖子图片里显示的一样。

Mid-Grade Amulet Replacement

中护符脑插补损

This program is designed to enhance the survivability of our armor-tanked capital ships and battleships, including Carriers, Dreadnoughts, Force Auxiliary, Tempest Fleet Issues, and Leshak vessels by using Mid-Grade Amulets.

此计划意在增强甲抗旗舰和甲抗战列舰的生存能力,包括使用中护符脑插的航母,无畏,FAX,舰队狂暴,和勒沙克

Mid-Grade Amulets: Eligibility

补损条件

  • Loss of a pod on a strategic operation or on the response of a beehive fleet (jabber ping required).
  • 战略行动或蜂巢救援行动中损了中护符脑插蛋,需要有jabber ping
  • The pod contained at least slots 1-5 mid-grade amulets. Upgrades are allowed and encouraged (mid-grade omega or full high-grade sets), but slots 1-5 of of mid-grade amulets are the minimum.
  • 脑插蛋至少包含1-5号槽位的中护符脑插。升级是被鼓励和允许的,包括6号槽位的中护符或高护符套装。
  • For battleships, use of an Astero or Succubus escape frigate with the approved fit in the doctrine forums.
  • 战列舰必须使用论坛批准的制式逃生护卫舰,包括阿斯特罗(Astero)魔女(Succubus)
  • Loss of your ships immediately preceding the loss of your pod (I'm not reimbursing you if you forgot to jump clone out of your amulet set after the operation).
  • 你的船和蛋必须是相继损失的。(忘记换蛋导致的损失是不会被补损的)
  • For subcapital ships, you must not have died running ahead or falling too far behind the main fleet. Stay with the group!
  • 非旗舰船只,损失不可以是因为跑的比大队快或慢导致的。和主舰队呆在一起。
  • The capital ship lost is armor tanked (no amulet reimbursement for your minokawa or chimera).
  • 旗舰损失必须是甲抗旗舰,盾抗旗舰不会被补损中护符脑插。

Mid-Grade Amulets: How to Claim

申请方式

  • Submit your pod lossmail into the affordable care app.
  • 在补损APP中提交你的的KM。
  • Include in the comment section the jabber broadcast and a link to the ship(s) you lost. These are not optional if it's not included you will be denied.
  • 在补损申请的评论部分添加你的jabber ping和你损失的船只的zkill链接。这些信息不是可选的,如果没有这些信息,你的申请会被拒绝。
  • The character which died will be contracted a replacement set of mid-grade amulets (1-5)
  • 损失中护符蛋的人物将会收到一套1-5号槽位中护符的补损合同。

Mid-Grade Amulets: Q&A

问答环节

  • Q: Hi. My dumbass was the cause of the beehive response fleet. I was in an armor tanked capital ship and had amulets plugged in. Can I get a replacement set? A: No. Pay better attention next time or use a rorqual.
  • 问:你好。我是那个被蜂巢舰队救援的笨蛋。我的船是个甲抗旗舰并且有护符蛋。我可以得到中护符蛋补损么?
  • 答:不可以。下次注意点或者用长须鲸吧。
  • Q: Hi. Me again. I wasn't paying attention to my contracts and the contract for my amulets expired. What do? A: Thank you for your generous donation to The State. Someone better able to fucking pay attention will get better use from them.
  • 问:你好,又是我。我忘记检查我的合同了,然后我的补损合同过期了。我要怎么办?
  • 答:蜜蜂联盟感谢你慷慨的捐赠。注意检查补损合同的人们会更好的用到它们。
  • Q: Hi. I didn't include the jabber ping or the killmail of my lost capital ship. What will happen? A: Your request for amulets will be denied. Do better next time.
  • 问:你好。我忘记在补损申请中添加jabber ping或者我损失旗舰的链接了。会发生什么?
  • 答:你的中护符脑插补损申请会被拒绝。下次记得加这些信息。
  • Q: Hi. My name is similar to SmallWillThaPeon2 and I was fucking around doing dumb shit with like 5 caps in NPC delve. I lost them going afk on the station undock (I hit the dock button I swear). They had amulets. Can I get replacements? A: No. No you cannot.
  • 问:你好。我的名字和SmallWillThaPeon2差不多,我开着我的5艘旗舰在NPC绝地干了些傻事。我因为在NPC空间站门口AFK损了我的旗舰们(我发誓我点了进站按钮)。他们用了护符脑插。可以补给我么?
  • 答:不。不可以。
  • Q: Hi. I didn't use an astero or succubus escape bay frigate because [reasons]. Can I still get my pod replaced? A. No.
  • 问:你好。我的战列舰护卫逃生舱里没有使用阿斯特罗或魔女【理由理由理由】。可以补我的蛋么?
  • 答:不可以。
  • Q: Hi. I know this request is going to be denied because I didn't follow the rules above, but I want to just shove it in there and see if I catch a reimburser asleep at the wheel. A: Abuse of the amulet program can result in being banned from SRP. Weigh the opportunity cost.
  • 问:你好。我知道我的补损申请会被拒绝,因为我没遵守上面的规则,但是我想把我的补损申请混进去,试试会不会碰到一个快睡着的补损官。
  • 答:滥用护符补损计划会导致你被禁止使用联盟SRP。考虑一下你的机会成本吧。

Peacetime

娱乐队补损

This payout category in the affordable care app covers doctrine threads found in this subforum:

补损APP中的此支付类别适用于联盟论坛中的娱乐队制式船型,具体可查看此链接:
https://goonfleet.co.../820-peacetime/

  • Q: Hi. I have a doctrine that believe I should get alliance SRP for. How do I get approved? A. Talk to Zintage Enaka, Apple Pear, and Snipereagle1. If they approve your idea, they will post a thread in the appropriate reimbursement subforum, and I will add it to the app.
  • 问:你好。我有一个我认为应该的都联盟补损的船型配置。我该如何申请?
  • 答:请联系Zintage EnakaApple PearSnipereagle1。如果他们批准了你的想法,他们会在相应的补损论坛发帖,然后我会将它们加入补损APP。

Sigs & Squads

特别兴趣小组和小队
This payout category in the affordable care app covers doctrine threads found in this subforum:

补损APP中的此支付类别适用于联盟论坛中的特别兴趣小组和小队专用制式船型,具体可查看此链接:
https://goonfleet.co...23-sigs-squads/

  • Interdictors and Command Destroyers destroyed by NPCs on pinged totality squads are eligible for SRP.
  • Totality squads ping的怪损拦截舰和指挥驱逐舰可以得到补损。

 

  • Q: Hi. I have a doctrine that believe I should get alliance SRP for. How do I get approved? A. Talk to Zintage Enaka, Apple Pear, and Snipereagle1. If they approve your idea, they will post a thread in the appropriate reimbursement subforum, and I will add it to the app.
  • 问:你好。我有一个我认为应该的都联盟补损的船型配置。我该如何申请?
  • 答:请联系Zintage EnakaApple PearSnipereagle1。如果他们批准了你的想法,他们会在相应的补损论坛发帖,然后我会将它们加入补损APP。

Shit Stack

吃屎损
This payout tier of reimbursement aims to provide individual pilots and various pubbie dipshit think-for-themselfers a creative channel to fail hilariously while the rest of the alliance points and laughs. By only paying out 50-75% of the after insurance cost, the intent is make sure participants have some "skin in the game" so they aren't pissing away the alliance isk at zero cost to themselves. There are neither jabber broadcasts, fleet commander requirements, nor are there any required fits. However, objectively terrible fits* (as determined by the reimbursement team) can and will still be denied.

此项支付等级意在给个人驾驶员和各种奇怪的人一个可以以各种有创意的滑稽方式损船的渠道,这样联盟成员可以嘲笑他们。此支付目标为50-75%的保险后吉他卖价,目的是让参与者也要承担一部分开销,以免他们胡乱适用联盟的钱。此项目不需要jabber ping,舰队指挥官,或任何配置要求。但是,客观来说极其糟糕的配置(由补损团队认定)会被拒绝补损。


Shit Stack SRP is available everywhere except High Sec. Nullsec? Yes. Lowsec? Yes. Wormholes? Yes. As of May 11, 2023, you can now request shitstack SRP in Pochven.

吃屎损适用范围为任何非高安区域。零安?补。低安?补。虫洞?补。从2023年5月11日起,波赫文也补。

Shit Stack pricing can be determined via View Payouts under the "Shit Stack" payout type.

吃屎损价格可以在补损APP中通过 “View Payouts”查看。
*Objectively Terrible Fits include but are not limited to the following:

客观上糟糕的配置包括但不限于以下:

  • Non-pvp ships
  • 非战斗船只
  • Missing mid or low slots
  • 缺少中或低槽装备
  • No rigs
  • 没有船插
  • Logistics vessels with guns
  • 后勤船只带了炮

Breaking the Rules

破坏了规则
If you attempt to defraud the system and are caught, someone will strip your roles, kick you from the corp, kick your alts, and kick your sponsor(ees). If you're in a member corp then they will do the same or we'll kick them. If a reimbursement request is denied, do not try to submit it again! Both actions count as goonfucking and can result in reimbursement bans or expulsion from the alliance.

如果你试图骗取补损金并被发现,会有人剥夺你的职务,把你踢出军团,踢掉你的小号,并踢掉你的担保人(们)。如果你在一个成员军团,他们也会这样做,不然我们就把军团踢出联盟。如果你的补损申请被拒绝了,不要试图重新提交!这些行为都属于goonfucking并且会导致你被禁止补损或踢出联盟。

Do not submit losses if you are not in Goonswarm Federation and/or the lossmail was not in Goonswarm Federation.  Do not submit mindlink pods or empty pods or any capsules other than mid-grade amulets as specified above. 

如果你不在蜜蜂联盟或你的击杀报告不在蜜蜂联盟,不要提交补损申请。不要提交任何除了上述说明的中护符脑插蛋,包括你的指挥蛋或空蛋。

Repeatedly shitting up my app with ships/capsules that are not reimbursable with result in me putting you on a 14 day ban from the application for wasting peoples' time. If you continue on your path of not learning, the ban will get longer. It is on you to understand what is reimbursable and when, it is not on us to wade through a massive pile of shit that you "hope" will get paid. Know the rules.

在我的补损APP中反复提交不符合补损规则的垃圾船只或蛋,将导致你因浪费补损官时间而收到14天禁止提交补损的惩罚。如果你没认识到你的错误并继续进行这种操作,你的禁止惩罚时间将变得更长。理解补损规则是你的责任,我们不应该因为你“希望”会得到补损而看大量的垃圾信息。好好学习一下规则。

So You Got Blown Up

那么你被爆船了

  • Submit your loss to the Affordable Care App (your login is your ESA account (forum username, jabber password), dumbass), following the relevant rules for the reimbursement tier of your loss, receive ISK, then go buy a new ship.
  • 在联盟补损Affordable Care App中提交你的补损申请,根据相关的补损规则和补损级别,你将得到ISK补损用于购买你的新船。(你的登录信息在你的ESA账户里(论坛用户名,jabber密码),笨蛋)。
  • Characters must be members of Goonswarm Federation at the time of the loss and at the time of review. If your character leaves alliance for whatever reason while a reimbursement is pending, you cease to be my fucking problem.
  • 在提交补损申请和补损官处理补损时,人物必须是在蜜蜂联盟中。如果你在补损申请还未处理完成前因任何原因离开了联盟,你就不是我要处理的问题了。
  • There is a reimbursement cap of 1bil isk per month for the sum of shit stack losses. After hitting the 1bil per month cap, the only ships you will receive reimbursement for will be logistics or booster (actually engaged in boosting) vessels for the rest of the month.
  • 吃屎损每月有1b isk的补损上限。当你达到每月1b的上限后,你将只会收到后勤或加成(必须是用来加成的)船型的补损,直到下个月。
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Q&A:

问答环节:

Q: Should I eve mail Atrum Veneficus about my problems?

A: You should never eve mail me anything. I have unread eve mails going back years. This is a literal screenshot of my inbox:

问:我是否应该发EVE邮件询问Atrum Veneficus关于我的问题?

答:你不应该因为任何事给我发EVE邮件。我已经很多年不看EVE邮件了。这是我收件箱的截图。

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Notice they are all unread. I don't like, use, or otherwise give two shits about eve mail. Be a normal human being, nut up, and make a forum post about it in the appropriate thread, so that other people can learn from your idiocy and/or witness my benevolence. Barring that, you should forum PM me, being well aware that I may then post said PM to the forums so as the public can again witness said benevolence. Jabber is fine as well, but sometimes pidgin freezes and I lose whatever your convo was and I don't dig through logs for a missed conversation. 

发现它们都是未阅读了么。我不喜欢,也不用,且不关心EVE邮件。做个正常人吧,鼓起勇气在合适的论坛里发个帖子吧,这样其他人就可以从你的白痴行为中学到些什么,并且可以见到我的“仁慈”。不然如果你选择直接在论坛上PM(私聊)我,你应该明白我会把你私聊我的东西发在论坛帖子里,以便公众可以再次见到我的“仁慈”。Jabber私聊也是可以接受的,不过pidgin有时会卡死,我会丢失你发给我的私聊信息,而我是不会因为一个私聊去翻历史记录的。

Q: How do I submit a loss using ESI?

A: Go to your Character Sheet > Interactions > Combat Log.  Right click the loss you want to submit for reimbursement, and select "Copy External Kill Link". If these instructions are too difficult for you to master, go to zkillboard, look up your loss, and choose Export > ESI Link and paste that into the reimbursement app.

问:我该如何用ESI提交我的补损申请?

答:找到你的人物表单->互动->战斗记录。右键你打算提交补损的损失报告,然后选择”Copy External Kill Link“复制外部链接。如果这个操作对你来说太难了,去zkillboard网站,找到你的损失报告,选择Export导出->ESI Link,然后复制粘贴到你的补损申请中。

In the application, choose "Submit Loss" and paste that link into the ESI Link textbox. 

申请补损时,选择"Submit Loss"提交损失,并把ESI链接粘贴在ESI Link文本框中。

Remember to paste your jabber broadcast if applicable. Broadcasts are not optional and "jabber crashes" or "lost the broadcast" are not acceptable answers. Enable logging in your favorite jabber application and you should always have broadcasts available to you. Forgetting a broadcast will likely result in your payout being denied.

在适用的情况下,别忘了粘贴你的jabber ping。这不是可选项,jabber崩溃了或我找不到ping了都不是可被接受的理由。在你最喜欢的jabber软件中打开记录功能,这样你就可以找到你的ping了。忘记添加你的ping将很大概率的导致你的补损申请被拒绝。

Q: Atrum, the app says it doesn't accept a certain ship type but it's like our main doctrine!

A: Listen cockstain. Before you come up on me all nerd bowed up about the app being broken, do one simple fucking thing. Copy your ESI link, paste it into your browser, and hit enter. If you get a pile of gibberish then congrats CCP is working. If CCP is working then there may be a problem with the app and go ahead and contact me. If you don't get anything back or your browser gives you an error, there's a problem with ESI. If ESI is down my app cannot function. So just wait until ESI is back up and don't bother me about it or I'm likely to rip your head off because CCP problems are not my problems.

问:Atrum,补损APP说它不接受某些船型,可是那船型和我们的主建制很像啊!

答:听好了脑残。在你找我抱怨我的补损APP坏了之前,先做一个很简单的事。复制你的ESI链接,并粘贴到你的浏览器中,然后按enter。如果你得到了一大堆胡言乱语,那么恭喜你,CCP服务器是正常工作的。如果CCP服务器正常工作,然后补损APP出问题了,那么联系我。如果你没得到任何回复或你的浏览器报错了,那么ESI就是出问题了。如果ESI坏了,那我的补损APP就没法工作了。所以耐心等待ESI回复正常后再提交补损申请,别因为这个原因找我,不然我很可能把你脑袋拧下来,因为CCP的问题不是我的问题。

Q: I can't log into the reimbursement app, it says I'm using the wrong username and password, how fix?

A: The affordable care app uses ESA to authenticate. This is different (or should be) from your forum username and password. The exact username/password combination for ACA is your forum username + your ESA/jabber password. If you are 100% certain that you are putting the same shit into the app as you put into jabber and it's still not working, then reset your ESA password. Don't put special characters in your password. If it's still not working, you have ignored something in the previous sentences and I'm going to be fucking pissed off at you. Fix your shit. If you cannot fix your shit, suffer in silence because I swear to fucking god this is you being an idiot, there is nothing wrong with the app.

问:我无法登录补损APP,它说我用了错误的用户名和密码,我该怎么办?

答:补损APP用ESA认证用户。这和你的论坛用户名密码不一样(或者应该是一样的)。补损APP的用户名和密码应该是你联盟论坛的用户名+你ESA/jabber的密码。如果你100%确定你输入的是正确的信息,但补损APP工作,那么你应该重置你的ESA密码。不要在你的密码中用特殊符号。如果还不好使,且你忽略了上面的几句话,那么我会很生气的。改正你自己的问题。如果你无法改正你的问题,那么就在沉默中忍受吧,因为我发誓这是因为你的脑残而导致的,我的补损APP没有问题。

Note: this also applies if it says 'user does not exist'. Do better.

注:这个同样适用于补损APP说“user does not exist”“用户不存在”。做好点。

Q: Dear Atrum, Blah, blah, blah, capital ship bullshit.

A: I have nothing to do with capital or supercapital reimbursement. You need to direct those questions to TheKman, The Bernie and/or Heck Heckington.The reason for this is because subcapitals reimbursement is very black and white - did you include ping. Did you fit ship correctly. Collect isk. There's a lot more grey area around capital reimbursement including specific op circumstances, specific pilot actions, the approximately 11 billion modules required in the cargohold, and whether reimbursement is partial, full, or hull replacement. I despise overly complex bullshit, so other people do it. Go bother them.

问:亲爱的Atrum,Blah, blah, blah,旗舰相关的废话。

答:我不负责旗舰或超级旗舰补损。关于旗舰补损的问题你应该问TheKman, The Bernie  Heck Heckington。原因是非旗舰补损规则是非常格式化的,你加没加ping->你船配的对不对->领取isk。旗舰补损有很多灰色区域,包括特定的舰队情况,特定的驾驶员行为,大概价值11b的船舱里的备用装备,还有补损是部分补损,全补或补船体。我鄙视过于复杂的狗屎,所以其他人负责这方面。有问题去烦他们。

Q: Do implants and drugs get SRP?

A: Short answer, no.  Alliance SRP does not calculate implants or any boosters that are unable to be created in game in reimbursement calculations. What that means is I will include things like drop and mindflood because those can be supplied in game. I will not include things like Agency 'Overclocker' because those can only be generated via CCP events and are therefore susceptible to extreme market fuckery.

问:脑插和药有补损么?

答:最直接的回答是没有。联盟补损不计算脑插或任何不能在游戏中制造的增效剂。这意味着我会计算坠落感和思维冲击这类增效剂的价格,因为这些可以在游戏中供应。我不会计算星际代理处”调频“这种只能由CCP活动提供且价格浮动巨大的增效剂。

Implants are not included in SRP costs because every time I've done it before, I have noticed a sharp rise in pod deaths. Either fuckers purposely self destruct or they linger on grid long enough to get shot, because they don't want to try and get their pod home. Linkswarm, if you are a member of it, will replace your mindlink.

脑插也不会被计算到联盟补损中,因为以前我每次把他们加进去,就会发现爆蛋数量暴增。不论是混蛋们故意自毁或者是他们在战场上滞留更久直到被人打死,因为他们不想试图把蛋跑回家。如果你是Linkswarm的成员,他们会补损你的指挥思维网络芯片。

Q: Blah blah blah drones...

A: Stop. I don't give a fuck about your drones. Just have some. Unless the doctrine thread specifically requires drones, do what you want except ask me about them.

问:Blah blah blah 无人机。。。

答:停下。我不在乎你的无人机。随便塞点无人机就行。除非是制式配置帖子要求你带某些特定的无人机,不然除了问我以为,你做什么都可以。

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如何使用联盟的战损补贴系统

大家都知道我们联盟是有战损补贴系统(SRP)的, 下面我来介绍一下这个系统简单的用法。

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  • 在右上角用注册论坛的游戏ID和论坛ESA/Jabber密码登陆(用户名注意不是电子邮件是游戏ID比如silvitni)
  • 只要是按照联盟配置的船,能够补助的钱都可以在上方的View Payout查看
  • 这个是点进去之后的画面

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  • 需要申请战损的话点开上方Submit Loss
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  • 会出现这样的画面

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  • 打开游戏内kb并点击右上角3个点。

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  • 点击Copy External Kill Link,得到第四部图片内需要的ESI Link

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  • 复制你当时所在的ping,做法很多种,但是最好把发布时间也复制进去,可以去Jabber直接复制,集结群也行。
  • 一个完整ping的例子:
(11:20:59 PM) directorbot: Time to come knocking, we have some houses to blow down 
FC Name: Corbzila 
Fleet Name: FUCK Them 
Formup Location: EX6 
Reimbursement: Strategic 
Comms: Imperium Op 1 
Doctrine: Alpha Fleet (Boosters > Scimitar > Maelstrom / Rohk > Huginn > Lachesis > Interdictors > Else) 
~~~ This was a skirmishbot broadcast from sixx to all at 2017-01-04 07:20:56.665156 EVE ~~~
  • 都输入完成之后点submit就行了,不久之后就应该能收到钱啦。
  • 如需要查询补损申请进度,点开上方My Losses
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  • 如果有问题请优先找处理你补损的补损官。如果还没分配补损官,请耐心等待。

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